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 PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:25 pm   
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Ok so my rear defroster tab came off and i got some stuff from advanced auto parts that didn't work so i figured i would you some adhesive to glue it on. Well upon looking farther i noticed that on the driver side i had another connector but this one had no tab. Do i need both on the connectors and tab hooked up to the defroster or only one to complete the circuit.

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P.S. And if i need both to complete the circuit where would i be able to find a tab piece to fit into the connector No online sources please thanks

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You need them both.......if you don't want to hit a junk yard, just buy a male fitting of some type and get it soldered on.

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See if our own "convertiblesforever" (Glenn) has any. Post a WTB notice is the classifieds or pm him directly. If he's got it, you'll have it quickly and at a fair price. To pm him, just go to the classifieds and look for a post that has him listed as the author. That's the easiest way to find him.

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Thanks Golfnut,
I do have them. Send me your address and I can send one out to you. Cost you a cup of coffee someday.
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See if our own "convertiblesforever" (Glenn) has any. Post a WTB notice is the classifieds or pm him directly. If he's got it, you'll have it quickly and at a fair price. To pm him, just go to the classifieds and look for a post that has him listed as the author. That's the easiest way to find him.

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I do have them. Send me your address and I can send one out to you. Cost you a cup of coffee someday.
Thanks,
Glenn


That's about as fair a price as there is. Unless, of course, Glenn would like to pay to have them taken off his hands to free up some shelf space. :rofl:

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 PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:45 pm   
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Hello,
Your rear defrost tab is in the mail tomorrow. The shop mannual says to use conductive epoxy. They suggest that the area is cleaned well and plenty of time is given to allow the epoxy to dry before use. I am not going to insure it as I have lots of them. Just let me know when it arrives. If it does not make it I will send you a second one.
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SeBrInG-cOnVt-MiKe wrote:
Ok so my rear defroster tab came off and i got some stuff from advanced auto parts that didn't work so i figured i would you some adhesive to glue it on. Well upon looking farther i noticed that on the driver side i had another connector but this one had no tab. Do i need both on the connectors and tab hooked up to the defroster or only one to complete the circuit.

Thank you

P.S. And if i need both to complete the circuit where would i be able to find a tab piece to fit into the connector No online sources please thanks

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1997 JXI (Forest green tan top tan interior)
1998 JXI (Deep Amythest purple camel top camel interior)
1999 JXI(Light Cypress Green/black top Agate interior)
1949 Buick Roadmaster convertible(Rainman car)
1966 Olds 442 2 door hardtop(4-speed/400c.i.d.)


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i will let you know if/when it comes in the mail
and once again thank you
i owe you

Thanks
Mike

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went from a 1998 dodge ram 1500 to a ford explorer 1996 to a 1998 chrysler sebring convt.
so far my sebring has
new fog light
new antenna
dual exhaust tip
new blue tinted headlights
new speakers front and back
Front Sony Explode (270W)
Back Pioneer (300W)
security system

will add soon
new head unit
air intake
remote start
New muffler


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So I have the same kind of problem, except I have both tabs, but one of them have come off. Same sort of thing, I went to an Auto store, bought a tab adhesive kit, it didn't work. So after buying another kit with the same sort of luck, I e-mailed the company (permatex) they said the auto store probably had it on the shelf for too long (shelf life is 2 years) and told me that they would send me a replacement kit. Its been 3 weeks (shipping from the US to Canada) and snow is flying.
Can someone please tell me what kind of conductive epoxy glue to use and where to get it??????

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 PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:01 pm   
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1997jxi wrote:
So I have the same kind of problem, except I have both tabs, but one of them have come off. Same sort of thing, I went to an Auto store, bought a tab adhesive kit, it didn't work. So after buying another kit with the same sort of luck, I e-mailed the company (permatex) they said the auto store probably had it on the shelf for too long (shelf life is 2 years) and told me that they would send me a replacement kit. Its been 3 weeks (shipping from the US to Canada) and snow is flying.
Can someone please tell me what kind of conductive epoxy glue to use and where to get it??????

Thanks


I would think with something like that you would be a lot better off soldering it then trying to glue it. Plus trying to find a conductive epoxy glue might be hard. About the only thing I can think of is JB Weld, but I have no clue if that would work for this or if it is conductive.

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I am studying for a test that I have to take on Monday(notice that as I am studying I am on the site :wink: )When I get back home Monday night or Tuesday I will get the shop mannual out and post what the book says on the repair.
Glenn


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1997jxi wrote:
So I have the same kind of problem, except I have both tabs, but one of them have come off. Same sort of thing, I went to an Auto store, bought a tab adhesive kit, it didn't work. So after buying another kit with the same sort of luck, I e-mailed the company (permatex) they said the auto store probably had it on the shelf for too long (shelf life is 2 years) and told me that they would send me a replacement kit. Its been 3 weeks (shipping from the US to Canada) and snow is flying.
Can someone please tell me what kind of conductive epoxy glue to use and where to get it??????

Thanks


I would think with something like that you would be a lot better off soldering it then trying to glue it. Plus trying to find a conductive epoxy glue might be hard. About the only thing I can think of is JB Weld, but I have no clue if that would work for this or if it is conductive.

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1997 JXI (Forest green tan top tan interior)
1998 JXI (Deep Amythest purple camel top camel interior)
1999 JXI(Light Cypress Green/black top Agate interior)
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1966 Olds 442 2 door hardtop(4-speed/400c.i.d.)


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 PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:12 pm   
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Hey Mike,
Did the tab show up yet? Other boxes sent the same day have made it to the destinations. Just wondering.
Glenn

SeBrInG-cOnVt-MiKe wrote:
i will let you know if/when it comes in the mail
and once again thank you
i owe you

Thanks
Mike

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1996 JXI (Candy Apple Red Dark Agate interior black top)
1997 JXI (Forest green tan top tan interior)
1998 JXI (Deep Amythest purple camel top camel interior)
1999 JXI(Light Cypress Green/black top Agate interior)
1949 Buick Roadmaster convertible(Rainman car)
1966 Olds 442 2 door hardtop(4-speed/400c.i.d.)


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 PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:20 pm   
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I've read pros and cons on soldering. I can tell you on my '98, I ordered conductive epoxy from some place recommended in one of the old site's archived threads. I got it, used it, and did NOT solve the problem. I may have applied it or cleaned the tabs incorrectly. Point being, I'm sure conductive epoxy or soldering will both work. It's the craftsman and not the tool. I was a poor craftsman, I am sure. :bawl:

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I wonder if JB Weld is conductive?? I would be real leery of putting a soldering iron on my back glass. I get a feeling of dread that my window would shatter.
My wife’s jeep that’s a different story…. The rear glass is cheap to buy and easy to replace.

I tried the Permatex repair kit with no luck :banghead:

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Here is the TSB

Rear Window Defogger - Is Inoperative

NUMBER: 08-001-02

GROUP: Electrical

DATE: Jan. 21, 2002

THIS BULLETIN SUPERSEDES TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN 08-009-01, DATED MAY 18, 2001, WHICH SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM YOUR FILES. THIS IS A COMPLETE REVISION AND NO ASTERISKS HAVE BEEN USED TO HIGHLIGHT REVISIONS.

SUBJECT:
Rear Window Defogger Inoperative

OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves replacing and reorienting BOTH rear window defogger grid terminal clips so the tips face outboard, as necessary. Failure to reorient the terminal clips may result in an additional failure.

NOTE : VEHICLES BUILT AFTER MAY 01, 2001 (MDH 0501XX) HAVE REAR WINDOW DEFOGGER TERMINAL CLIPS ORIENTED WITH TIPS FACING OUTBOARD.

MODELS:

2001 - 2002 (JR) Sebring Convertible
1996 - 2000 (JX) Sebring Convertible

SYMPTOM/CONDITION:

The rear window defogger is inoperative and defogger grid terminal(s) is separated from the rear window heating grid and/or may be broken.

DIAGNOSIS:

Inspect the rear window grid terminals. If the grid terminals are securely fastened to the heating grid and the rear window defogger is inoperative further diagnosis is required. If one or both clips have broken or separated from the heating grid, perform the Repair Procedure.

EQUIPMENT REQUIRED:

NOTE : DO NOT USE A FLAME TYPE SOLDERING GUN OR SOLDERING GUN RATED GREATER THAN 500 WATTS, DAMAGE TO THE GLASS COULD OCCUR.

REPAIR PROCEDURE:

1. Remove the headliner strap by removing the screw from the carpet, then pull the headliner away from the terminal clip area, (Fig. 1).

2. Remove the wire connector from the terminal clip. If the terminal clip is broken and a portion of the clip is still attached to the heating grid, remove the portion of the clip remaining in the wire connector.

NOTE :PLACE A PROTECTIVE MAT BELOW THE CLIP AREA TO CATCH ANY SOLDER THAT MAY DRIP OFF OF THE GLASS.

3. If clip has come loose from the glass, skip to step 5.

4. Apply heat with a solder gun to the portion of the terminal clip on the glass until the solder starts to flow, remove the clip then smooth the solder. Wait 5 minutes for the glass to cool before proceeding, (Fig. 2).

5. Clean mating surfaces on grid and new clip with "000" extra fine steel wool.

NOTE :EXCESSIVE ABRASION MAY WEAR AWAY THE GRID COPPER SURFACE AND GRID CONTINUITY WILL BE LOST.

6. Holding the new terminal clip with a metal "pick" or other suitable pointed tool, place the new terminal clip in the same location as the original terminal clip but with the tip of clip facing outboard.

NOTE :THE TIP OF THE TERMINAL CLIP MUST FACE OUTBOARD. CLIPS ARE PRE-SOLDERED AND FLUXED. DO NOT REUSE A CLIP IF IT HAS BEEN HEATED PREVIOUSLY.
7. Place the solder gun on the new terminal clip and heat until the solder flows. Remove the solder gun and continue to hold the clip in position for 5 seconds. Let the solder area cool for 10 minutes, (Fig. 3).

8. Attach the wire connector to the terminal clip.

9. Repeat the procedure on the other side of the rear window if the tip of the terminal clip is not facing outboard or the clip has broken or the clip has come loose from the glass.

10. Test the rear window defogger grid for continuity. If successful perform step 11, if not, additional grid diagnosis will be necessary.

11. Install the headliner straps to the carpet using the original screws.

Patrick

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 PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:26 am   
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hey glenn,
sorry that i haven't responded i got the tab on saterday haven't had time to put it on the rear window yet but will most likely do it tonight. outboard?? is that with the tab piece that connects to the connector is facing out? instead of facing down like it was when i bought the car?

and once again Glenn Thank You

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dual exhaust tip
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